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Juan Sebastian
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Is it possible to correct charge imbalance in acid mine waters?
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November 13, 2024, 12:18:20 AM »
Hello,
I recently read an article indicating that in acid mine/rock drainage (pH = 1-3), it's common to encounter a high percent error in charge balance calculations due to the exclusion of H+ ions or acidity. The authors concluded that charge imbalance in acid waters is model-dependent and applied corrections by incorporating protons estimated through titration and acidity speciation. They used PHREEQC to refine their calculations, but I lack some of their measurements needed to properly estimate the charge imbalance.
Is there a theoretical way in PHREEQC to correct for charge imbalance in very low acid waters without requiring these additional measurements (i.e., acidity titration)?
I have a sample with this issue, yielding a percent error of -66.66% using the WATEQ4F.dat database.
SOLUTION 1
pH 2.000000
pe 10.352000
temp 42.800000
-units mg/L
Na 402.943233
K 1038.472893
Mg 28848.877736
Ca 550.174358
Alkalinity 0.000000
S(6) 246666.67
Cl 236.666667
Al 7648.121721
As 41.176146
B 19.064162
Ba 0.016402
Cd 0.067811
Cu 0.573103
Fe 2011.838793
Li 68.412078
Mn 81.797433
Ni 1.162858
P 32.229078
Pb 1.916603
Rb 0.000000
Si 63.320155
Sr 40.798466
Zn 13.500483
SAVE solution 1
END
Is there a theoretical way to make this correction? It would be very helpful.
The paper is "Nordstrom et al. (2009) Sulfur geochemistry of hydrothermal waters in Yellowstone National Park: IV Acid?sulfate waters. Applied Geochemistry (24), 191-207"
Thanks,
Sebastian
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dlparkhurst
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Re: Is it possible to correct charge imbalance in acid mine waters?
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November 13, 2024, 04:39:29 PM »
First, two questions. Is the pH of 2.0 simply an estimate?, and do you trust your SO4-2 analysis? It would be reassuring if you had multiple analyses with similar analytics.
The concentration of SO4-2 is much larger than any other ion, so assuming the cation analyses are reasonably accurate, the only cation to balance the sulfate is H+. You can always charge balance the solution on pH. The result is a pH of about 0.3.
Another issue is the redox state of the Fe. Your current calculation pe generates Fe(2) and Fe(3), but mostly Fe(2). Unless you have measured the individual redox states, I don't know of any way to know the true distribution, but it will make a difference in the saturation indices of Fe(3) minerals. You can investigate the effect by setting the concentration as Fe(3) instead of Fe.
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Juan Sebastian
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Re: Is it possible to correct charge imbalance in acid mine waters?
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November 13, 2024, 05:54:13 PM »
Thank you for your response!
Unfortunately, we don?t have replicates of this sample. The pH was measured in the field using a multiparameter instrument, and the SO₄?⁻ concentration might be related to strong evaporation, which of course would also affect the concentrations of the other ions.
On the other hand, I only have total Fe, so I?ll try adjusting the redox state as you mentioned to evaluate discrepancies in the saturation index.
Thank you for your support!
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