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Juan Sebastian
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Three redox potential in the same example. What does each one do?
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October 22, 2024, 06:36:50 PM »
Hello everyone,
In the first example of the manual (speciation example), the solution has the following composition:
SOLUTION 1 SEAWATER FROM NORDSTROM AND OTHERS (1979)
units ppm
pH 8.22
pe 8.451
density 1.023
temp 25.0
redox O(0)/O(-2)
Ca 412.3
Mg 1291.8
Na 10768.0
K 399.1
Fe 0.002
Mn 0.0002 pe
Si 4.28
Cl 19353.0
Alkalinity 141.682 as HCO3
S(6) 2712.0
N(5) 0.29 gfw 62.0
N(-3) 0.03 as NH4
U 3.3 ppb N(5)/N(-3)
O(0) 1.0 O2(g) -0.7
END
My question is: In this example, there are three types of redox potentials (i.e., pe, redox O(0)/O(-2), and N(5)/N(-3)). What does each one do?
Thanks for your support!
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dlparkhurst
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Re: Three redox potential in the same example. What does each one do?
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October 22, 2024, 06:51:26 PM »
The answer is not much.
The pe is used to determine the distribution of Mn among Mn redox states.
The pe calculated from O2(aq) is used to determine the distribution of Fe among its redox states.
The pe calculated from N(-3)/N(5) is used to determine the distribution of U among its redox states.
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Juan Sebastian
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Re: Three redox potential in the same example. What does each one do?
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October 22, 2024, 07:26:17 PM »
Thank you for your quick response Mr. Parkhurst,
I still have the following question: is the pe 8.451 used to define the chemical speciation of the rest of the elements (e.g., S(6), C(4), etc.), or is the one calculated from O2(aq) used to define the chemical speciation of the rest of the elements?
Thank you so much!
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Juan Sebastian
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Re: Three redox potential in the same example. What does each one do?
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October 22, 2024, 07:55:11 PM »
I read more and understood that the pe calculated from O2(aq) is used to determine the distribution of the rest of the elements.
Thank you!
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dlparkhurst
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Re: Three redox potential in the same example. What does each one do?
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October 22, 2024, 09:18:42 PM »
All of the other elements are either not redox active, or you have defined individual redox states, in which case there is no need for a pe.
Note that if the solution is used in a reaction calculation, all of the redox elements and element valence states will react to redox equilibrium.
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Juan Sebastian
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Re: Three redox potential in the same example. What does each one do?
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October 22, 2024, 10:56:46 PM »
Thank you so much, now I understand better!
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