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tianshiyu
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Carbon dioxide ejection
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December 07, 2019, 09:08:41 AM »
I'm a master student from china. Recently, I'm studying in Carbon dioxide ejection in urine. Urine usually contains a lot of carbonate. I'm trying to stripping CO2 by using H2SO4. My simulation is as follow:
SOLUTION 1
temp 19
pH 9.2
pe 4
redox pe
units mmol/kgw
density 1
C(4) 250
Cl 170
K 46
Na 83
P 8.97
S(6) 10
N(-3) 550
-water 1 # kg
SAVE solution 1
END
USE solution 1
REACTION 1
H2SO4 1
360 millimoles in 1000 steps
EQUILIBRIUM_PHASES 1
CO2(g) 0 0
Amm(g) 0 0
USER_GRAPH 1
-headings H2O C
-axis_titles "pH" "Concentration of C" ""
-chart_title CO2 stripping
-initial_solutions false
-connect_simulations true
-plot_concentration_vs x
-start
10 graph_x -LA("H+")
20 GRAPH_Y TOT("C")
-end
-active true
END
The result show that when pH decrease below 6, the solution will contains very little total carbon, but this is different with what i did in my experimental. In the phenomenon of my experimental, though the pH decrease below 6 there still little bubble spilled out of the solution. I'm confused what cause the difference.
And I didn't see the equilibrium equation of H2CO3 in Amm. database.
Thank you for your continued help.
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dlparkhurst
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Re: Carbon dioxide ejection
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December 07, 2019, 04:02:48 PM »
With Amm.dat, you should use Amm rather than N(-3) in the SOLUTION definition.
I think you intend the solution to equilibrate with atmospheric CO2(g), which means the EQUILIBRIUM_PHASES definition should be
CO2(g) -3.4 0
Similarly, the target saturation index for Amm(g) should not be 1 atm (log P(Amm(g) = 0). At high ph, there may be some loss of Amm(g) from solution, whereas at lower pH, Amm(aq) would be quite small.
The titration will convert CO3-2 to HCO3- to CO2(aq). The aqueous reactions should be quite fast. CO2 in the description of solution represents both CO2(aq) and H2CO3(aq); CO2(aq) is predominant. The loss of CO2 to the atmosphere may be a slower process that depends on stirring, surface area, temperature, etc. Bubbles do not necessarily form.
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tianshiyu
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Re: Carbon dioxide ejection
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December 11, 2019, 08:48:00 AM »
Thanks a lot. I thank it is right that the experiment didn't reach to the equilibrium. and I never thought the gas phases equilibrium, I will Think about it.
And I have another question, can Phreeqc add organic matter in to reaction. Thank you very much.
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dlparkhurst
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Re: Carbon dioxide ejection
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December 11, 2019, 03:25:46 PM »
Frequently, the formula CH2O is used to represent organic matter in REACTION or KINETICS.
When adding this reaction to solution, the carbon ends up as C(IV) if there are thermodynamically favorable oxidants in the solution (O2, NO3, SO4, and others), or it ends up as a combination of C(IV) and C(-IV) (methanogenesis).
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