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AzadGhadirian
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Pretreatment of saltwater by rising pH and aeration for Carbonate precipitation
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January 27, 2025, 11:42:14 AM »
Hello all!
I am on my last steps of modeling some different pretreatment and posttreatment options for membrane-based brackish water desalination. Right now I am trying to simulate the pretreatment of the feed water by adding NaOH to rise the pH to 10 and simultaneously aerate the water with gas with 15% CO2 content.
I know that CO2 dissolution leads to and fall of the pH and NaOH leads to rising the pH..
Still I am trying to find out what the Precipitation potential could be.
I am using EQ_phase for aerating by adjusting the SI of CO2(g) by the partial pressure of 15% and assuming that the rest is Ntg(g).
The problem is:
- I can't raise the Moles of CO2(g) available since the program gives me an "maximum iterations exceeded"-Error.
- The amound of CO2(g) right now is not enough after the 7th Reaction-Step.
I would be very happy if someone has an idea how I can solve this problem!
Thank you very much and all the best,
Azad
SOLUTION 1
temp 22.4
pH 7.57
pe 4
redox pe
units ppm
density 1
C(4) 1 CO2(g) -3.374
Ntg 1 Ntg(g) -0.107
Oxg 1 Oxg(g) -0.677
Ba 1.71
Ca 360
Cl 2753 charge
K 124
Mg 140
Na 1757
S(6) 1784
Si 25.53
-water 1 # kg
EQUILIBRIUM_PHASES 1
CO2(g) -0.823 5 #p(CO2)=0,15
Ntg(g) -0.07 4# p(N2)=0,85
Gypsum 0 0
Barite 0 0
Magnesite 0 0
SiO2(a) 0 0
Calcite 0 0
REACTION 1
NaOH 1
7.3 moles in 10 steps
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dlparkhurst
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Re: Pretreatment of saltwater by rising pH and aeration for Carbonate precipitation
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January 27, 2025, 04:24:35 PM »
The numerical method had a hard time with this calculation. One fix is to add the following to cause the non-linear equation solver to use smaller steps to approach the solution.
Code:
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KNOBS
-step 10
-pe 2
You actually run out of CO2 before you reach the PCO2 that you specify, which I suspect is part of the reason for the failure to find a solution. If you put 10 moles of CO2 in EQUILIBRIUM_PHASES, the specified PCO2 can be achieved, and the calculation runs smoothly without adding KNOBS.
Please use the # button above the text box to enter code.
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AzadGhadirian
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Re: Pretreatment of saltwater by rising pH and aeration for Carbonate precipitation
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January 28, 2025, 01:41:24 PM »
Thank you very much for your reply Mr. Parkhurst!
Indeed the simulation runs when I raise the available moles of co2(g) to 10 moles. The problem is that I can't reach the aimed pH of 10 then.
It seems like in cases where I am aerating the solution with ambient air (p(co2)=0,00042) I am able to adjust the needed NaOH and moles of CO2 to have both: a pH of 10 and CO2 saturation with ambient air.
In this case I need more NaOH when I raise the amount of CO2 moles and vice versa..
Using the suggested KNOBS didn't change my simulation yet.. Do you have an another idea how I can reach both (pH and CO2 saturation)?
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dlparkhurst
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Re: Pretreatment of saltwater by rising pH and aeration for Carbonate precipitation
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January 28, 2025, 03:40:51 PM »
In brief, concentrations of CO2 and NaOH become unrealistically high to maintain atmospheric pCO2 above pH 9.5 or so.
See the discussion and example calculation in this thread
https://phreeqcusers.org/index.php/topic,2615.msg9902.html#msg9902
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